Pizza, Grape Soda and the Epstein Files

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A 2018 email shows Jeffrey Epstein’s own urologist telling him to “wash your hands and let’s go get pizza and grape soda” right after refilling his erectile dysfunction prescription.

Quick Take

A newly surfaced 2018 email between Jeffrey Epstein and his urologist, Dr. Harry Fisch, mixes a prescription refill with an odd invite for “pizza and grape soda.”
Tucker Carlson highlighted the message as part of roughly 800 to 1,000 “pizza” mentions found across the released Epstein files.
A Yahoo News fact-check says photos and context show the words refer to real food, not a trafficking code.
The fight over what the email means shows how little trust remains in official explanations of the Epstein case.

An Odd Message Resurfaces From the Epstein Files

The email at the center of this story dates to April 2018. A man identified as Dr. Harry Fisch, Epstein’s urologist, tells him “you have refills available” for Stendra, a drug used to treat erectile dysfunction. The message then adds, “after you use them, wash your hands and let’s go get pizza and grape soda.” Fisch reportedly used the same phrase in other messages, once writing “no one can understand” it.

Carlson pulled the exchange from a much larger batch of records released by the Department of Justice. He pointed out that “pizza” shows up somewhere between 800 and 1,000 times across the files, a number that has pushed some viewers to ask whether the word hides something darker.

Why Some See a Pattern Worth Checking

Commentators note the phrase is unusual on its face. It pairs a sexual-function drug with instructions to wash up, then jumps straight to a food order. That combination, paired with Fisch’s own comment that “no one can understand” the message, is enough for skeptics to want the document checked and the full context explained rather than dismissed outright.

Other outlets covering the same files describe the email in blunt terms, calling it a “disturbing doctor email” that “sparks alarm” among readers scrolling through the broader document release. That framing has helped the clip spread quickly online, even before any outside group confirmed what the message actually meant.

Fact-Checkers Say the Food Was Real

A Yahoo News fact-check pushed back hard on the darker reading. It reported that photos attached to the same email threads show actual pizza, grape soda, Chinese cookies, and other snacks like Pop-Tarts and cinnamon rolls. The check found no proof that Epstein or Fisch ever used those words to mean anything other than food.

That conclusion matters because it directly challenges the idea that “pizza” worked as a secret code in this specific exchange. It does not erase the fact that the wording still strikes many readers as strange, especially given who sent it and what else was happening in Epstein’s world at the time.

A Bigger Trust Problem Than One Email

This debate is really about something larger than grape soda. Years after Epstein’s arrest and death, the public still has not gotten a full, trusted account of who knew what and when. Every strange line in a newly released document gets picked apart because so many basic questions about the case remain unanswered by officials on any side of the political aisle.

Researchers who study political misinformation say partisan identity can push people toward conspiracy explanations that embarrass their opponents, and that media habits shape which claims people believe. That pattern does not prove or disprove what this one email means, but it helps explain why a food order can become a flashpoint overnight.

For now, the email itself is verified as part of the document release, and the food explanation has real support from photos in the same files. What has not happened is any independent body stepping in to close the debate for good, leaving both the curious and the skeptical with reason to keep watching.